And so, and so , and so

And also I could say , so forth, but no.

So the level of adversarial discourse, has essentially
drowned out just about any other dialog.

IMHO,, not a good situation in practical terms,
because you must either conscientiously ignore it,
or alternatively , become mostly consumed by
it.

Seems to me there should be an alternative path.
You might think of it not inappropriately as a
path towards sanity, which would include most probably
a pretty strenuous effort to achieve an atmosphere of
co-operation. 

And I think one way this might occur is if we make an
attempt to change our selection of president, first
by being more inclusive , and secondly, attempting
as much as possible to make it non-partisan.  The objective
would be to have a president who is essentially
all about encouraging bi-partisan and co-operative
discourse.

Certainly, a strenuous effort, but I do not believe
it is impossible.

This is something that would have to seriously
involve the media, because of course the media
does, in fact ,profit from the promotion of adversarial
discourse. 

But largely and primarily it needs to be done I feel
on a local or regional level before there is sufficient
support for it.  The requirement of these different
organizations, must , I feel, occur regionally
and locally.  This will give this process sufficient
foundation, to demand support on the  level
of the nation.

There may be those that argue organization and
co-operation is not required in our public life.

Really?  I hope this is not a position supported by
the eminent scientists of economy.

Well, perhaps if nothing is done the historians
will inherent the world, but then who will they
tell their stories to?

Consensus and/or HaHa

17th Anniversary of 9/11/2001

Starting out with HaHa, I'm not sure what that means right now,
maybe in the course of this we will find out, more.

Now,,,,,

Consensus, what is this?   Well , following on with what has gone
before, consensus is one of the best ways of solving problems.
A highly effective tools, used all the time, in families, small
groups and many other environments.

That doesn't really tell us what it is, more than saying it's
something like a screw diver or something.

Actually, you might more accurately consider it to be like
a straight edge of t-square, maybe a level of some type.
I helps to put things in alignment and therefore, contributes
to the kind of more solid or enduring solutions.

Now, in my opinion, the situation which has evolved in
the U.S., two party system has gravely impacted this
countries ability to achieve valid or valuable consensus,
which is why, many of the most challenging issues/problems
of this time are being either put on the back burner, or
entirely ignored.  This lack of consensus also impacts
seriously the way in which we develop priorities.

Well, in my opinion, this is an issue created by
what I have previously referred to as the tyranny
of the two party system.

The problem is this system has a perverse behavior
of trying to define what consensus is, mostly based
on the " majority ", view point which goes back and
forth, like a pendulum and currently endangers the
mechanical stability of that pendulum.  I guess the
slow motion destruction of the pendulum is maybe
what I would refer to as " HaHa ".

Now,  this is in my mind why efforts need to be
made to really support and encourage " genuine "
consensus.

The above term " genuine " is of course what is
hard, but the nice thing is you know it when
you have it.   You know when differing view
points have the opportunity to influence
the decision making process.

Obviously, as before, there is much more to
this which I must belay for this moment.

continue on, hey jude?

Yesterday?  was John McCain's, funeral, I am linking to Mr. Obama's
eulogy, delivered at that time:  eulogy

There were other speaker's but many of Obama's comments connected
especially to previous post, especially on the notion that there are
"American" ideals which transcend politics.

So, that is following with the notion that there needs to be
more co-operation to make this country work, effectively
to achieve it's " goals ".....

So, what this implies is there needs to be " efforts ", applied
to bring American's together, to make our social experiments
in government, perhaps work in  more effective ways, which
means I think, reducing some of the difficulties which confront
us, at this time.

Obviously, I must still get into this a bit deeper.

Also last Sunday(Aug.26), was the 50th anniversary of the release
of Hey Jude