More on, Soverienty

This could lead into more on, more on, and then some more on, and
maybe even more on,  the subject could be extensive ( lot's of more ons ).

Now before I start I want to mention 3 recent talks related to this
subject

1) Mr. G.W. Bush

2) Mr. Barack Obama

both former or Former (?) Presidents
what about ( former presidents ? )
 and both on 10/19/2017

3)  Mr John McCain 

who is current Senator wise, but also
perhaps former from other view points.

Now these talks are not strictly related to
sovereignty but certainly there are aspects of
these talks which connect with the idea but
also they are examples of political discourse
as referred to in previous post,  also distinct
in that at least from my point of view, the
issue is not primarily focused on

-------  how do we spend money ----------

but primarily focused on

-----------    who we are ------------

which I assert is closely linked to this idea of
sovereignty ...

Now, my suggestion that sovereignty is more closely
related to historical or perhaps " legal " issues
has some relevancy, and of course  would be true
for 2 reasons, one is justice is of key concern and
two,,,, everything changes

in fact   :  

Bob Dylan The Times They Are A Changin' 1964 - YouTube

but on this issue of sovereignty I would also suggest that,
if you consider this country certainly one of the most
serious confrontations to sovereignty was the civil war in
the U.S. and an issue which confronts us today, because
issues as to the nature of U.S. sovereignty which should have
been resolved at that time, I believe where not, and
as a result,  certain systemic flows have evolved, those
flaws now seeming to be threatening to turn into
serious problems ....

Well, as stated previously I will need to address this more.


 

Political Discourse and Sovereignty

Well, sovereignty has recently pop_ed  up in political discourse.
Now, I'm not sure whether anyone or everyone has a very clear
notion of what sovereignty might mean and to put it simply, 
what sovereignty is, is a pretty complex issue, but I will simply
state that " sovereignty "  comes from the individual,,, because
where else could it arise?

But back to the issue of political discourse, in my opinion,
this has been mostly focused on ,,, we will discuss
a variety of issues which may be of concern, and whoever
holds the most popular position on this, is --> the  " group ",
that gets to spend the cash,,,, and the " big pile " of cash
becomes ,,, sovereignty.  Basically, in the U.S. it's about
a contest between the dueling big 2 positions, 
meaning liberal or conservation ,,,,,  which as a nation
we decide which of these groups is the best about talking
about this variety of issues.  Then we decide that anybody
who doesn't have 2 distinct groups arguing about how
to spend the cash, are mostly ----> bad! <---- (generally,
but not always) ,  but , whatever,  that makes us " good ! " ...
There is, however, a monkey wrench variable which relates
to " individual " popularity ,,, a highly obscure concept.

This is pretty stupid ,really, if you think about or, really,
it's pretty stupid even if you don't think about it.  Now,,
I'm not going to try and say how we should make these
kinds of decisions, but I will say that there must be
a better way to think about this and to really actually
do it, because right now I think the main justification
for it is, it's a kind of weird form of entertainment, that
no one enjoys, but no one can  escape, and we kind of
assume is free, but really costs a bundle.

Meanwhile, I will get back to the issue of sovereignty, some
more .... later .....